Comments on: Run 50 Miles and Gain Weight? http://justyouraveragejoggler.com/run-50-miles-and-gain-weight/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=run-50-miles-and-gain-weight Joggling blog about long distance running, juggling and the sport of combining both called joggling. It was created to be a useful resource for anyone interested in learning to become a better runner, better juggler, and even a joggler. Fri, 25 May 2012 04:35:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Luka http://justyouraveragejoggler.com/run-50-miles-and-gain-weight/comment-page-1/#comment-38350 Luka Mon, 27 Feb 2012 20:16:38 +0000 http://justyouraveragejoggler.com/run-50-miles-and-gain-weight/#comment-38350 Wow I am posting almost a year since the last post. I wanted to mention that cortisiol the stress hormone makes a huge difference and was not mentioned anywhere in the above. I have been a avid runner and fell in to the trap of lowering my caloric intake while increasing my activity. This does work at the beginning especially if you are heavier but it is not efficient. I was surprised when I saw a professional marathoner who placed 10th in the Beijing olympics mention to me that he feels sorry for how doctors and society have been mentioning eating less and exercising more to accomplish a low body fat. He consistently eats 5-7k calories to help keep his thyroid plugging away with his metabolism burning like a furnace. His skin tone stays good with the increased calories and sleep and over training are almost non existent. He told be to ease in to adding more calories week by week since the body has a point where it loves to be for extreme physical activity. He also told me to get a blood test. What i was surprised to hear was when he said that it takes energy to burn energy. Heck i should have thought of that as common sense. The more surplus you provide with a high thyroid the more efficient the body will be at burning later on. But they key was to increase my thyroid and lower my cortisol. So I checked up on my blood test and saw the my testosterone, and thyroid were indeed low. Also my cortisol was sky high. I started to add calories 200 per week. From my starting point of 1800 when running 20km a day previously, I got up to 3000 eventually. During this time I was losing weight and my clothes were getting looser. I got down to a weight of 190 at 6'3. I eventually started gaining weight which new I reached a optimum level for being sedentary. Now I added running back in. I kept increasing my calories over the weeks till I got up to 4500. This seemed optimal for me, and my body stayed warm and full of life. I also enjoyed eating this much since my stomach expanded and my body engine was working. Before even if i tried to overeat after running I could not. This was a gradual process. I started losing weight again till I hit 183 where I stay more or less and I love it! I hope this experience helps someone, since really was not losing weight the traditional method that is prescribed for most athletes. Sorry for grammatical errors and stuff, im in a hurry atm. Wow I am posting almost a year since the last post. I wanted to mention that cortisiol the stress hormone makes a huge difference and was not mentioned anywhere in the above. I have been a avid runner and fell in to the trap of lowering my caloric intake while increasing my activity. This does work at the beginning especially if you are heavier but it is not efficient. I was surprised when I saw a professional marathoner who placed 10th in the Beijing olympics mention to me that he feels sorry for how doctors and society have been mentioning eating less and exercising more to accomplish a low body fat. He consistently eats 5-7k calories to help keep his thyroid plugging away with his metabolism burning like a furnace. His skin tone stays good with the increased calories and sleep and over training are almost non existent. He told be to ease in to adding more calories week by week since the body has a point where it loves to be for extreme physical activity. He also told me to get a blood test. What i was surprised to hear was when he said that it takes energy to burn energy. Heck i should have thought of that as common sense. The more surplus you provide with a high thyroid the more efficient the body will be at burning later on. But they key was to increase my thyroid and lower my cortisol. So I checked up on my blood test and saw the my testosterone, and thyroid were indeed low. Also my cortisol was sky high. I started to add calories 200 per week. From my starting point of 1800 when running 20km a day previously, I got up to 3000 eventually. During this time I was losing weight and my clothes were getting looser. I got down to a weight of 190 at 6’3. I eventually started gaining weight which new I reached a optimum level for being sedentary. Now I added running back in. I kept increasing my calories over the weeks till I got up to 4500. This seemed optimal for me, and my body stayed warm and full of life. I also enjoyed eating this much since my stomach expanded and my body engine was working. Before even if i tried to overeat after running I could not. This was a gradual process. I started losing weight again till I hit 183 where I stay more or less and I love it! I hope this experience helps someone, since really was not losing weight the traditional method that is prescribed for most athletes.

Sorry for grammatical errors and stuff, im in a hurry atm.

]]> By: jj http://justyouraveragejoggler.com/run-50-miles-and-gain-weight/comment-page-1/#comment-35168 jj Mon, 04 Apr 2011 01:23:04 +0000 http://justyouraveragejoggler.com/run-50-miles-and-gain-weight/#comment-35168 Oh yes - been learning this time and again after every long run I do. I never was obsessed with weighing in before after long runs. I started because I want to lose weight, and low and behold - the longer I run, the more I gain. 1.5 since today after a 10 miler yesterday. And I am out of shape after winter - just getting back into it, SHOULD be burning a lot of calories working harder. It's just water though and the body working on equilibrium. It's not anything we should have to fix - time passes and things even out. The guy worried about gaining actual fat (the trainer) is EATING too MUCH - has nothing to do with giving up running. Bottom line, many people eat more after long runs, and if they are in shape, they have an efficient body (burn less), and take in more calories (by eating) than they burn, that's the bottom line. Eat less. But easier said than done of course! Advil is good for inflammation too - NOT eating omega 3 fats...that's just going to pad your butt more. Well balanced diet is best. Oh yes – been learning this time and again after every long run I do. I never was obsessed with weighing in before after long runs. I started because I want to lose weight, and low and behold – the longer I run, the more I gain. 1.5 since today after a 10 miler yesterday. And I am out of shape after winter – just getting back into it, SHOULD be burning a lot of calories working harder. It’s just water though and the body working on equilibrium. It’s not anything we should have to fix – time passes and things even out. The guy worried about gaining actual fat (the trainer) is EATING too MUCH – has nothing to do with giving up running. Bottom line, many people eat more after long runs, and if they are in shape, they have an efficient body (burn less), and take in more calories (by eating) than they burn, that’s the bottom line. Eat less. But easier said than done of course! Advil is good for inflammation too – NOT eating omega 3 fats…that’s just going to pad your butt more. Well balanced diet is best.

]]> By: D http://justyouraveragejoggler.com/run-50-miles-and-gain-weight/comment-page-1/#comment-29654 D Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:48:08 +0000 http://justyouraveragejoggler.com/run-50-miles-and-gain-weight/#comment-29654 <a href="http://lifeandpath.com/" rel="nofollow">Life and Path</a> This is such a great post. Dietary changes help (think BETTER calories, not just lower calories), but some weight gain from water will happen. Your body knows it needs to be able to use glycogen stores and needs water to do that. Omega 3’s will help reduce inflammation related gains. Happy Running Everyone! Life and Path
This is such a great post. Dietary changes help (think BETTER calories, not just lower calories), but some weight gain from water will happen. Your body knows it needs to be able to use glycogen stores and needs water to do that. Omega 3’s will help reduce inflammation related gains.

Happy Running Everyone!

]]> By: Amanda http://justyouraveragejoggler.com/run-50-miles-and-gain-weight/comment-page-1/#comment-27388 Amanda Tue, 05 May 2009 00:33:50 +0000 http://justyouraveragejoggler.com/run-50-miles-and-gain-weight/#comment-27388 PHEWWW! I am so glad I found this. I did the 10 mile Mountain Goat yesterday which is notorious for its hills at a 10 minute mile and I got on the scale this morning and was 4 lbs heavier and I was SHOCKED! It all makes sense now !! .. I will weigh again in a few days. Thanks! PHEWWW! I am so glad I found this. I did the 10 mile Mountain Goat yesterday which is notorious for its hills at a 10 minute mile and I got on the scale this morning and was 4 lbs heavier and I was SHOCKED! It all makes sense now !! .. I will weigh again in a few days. Thanks!

]]> By: Blane http://justyouraveragejoggler.com/run-50-miles-and-gain-weight/comment-page-1/#comment-26281 Blane Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:32:28 +0000 http://justyouraveragejoggler.com/run-50-miles-and-gain-weight/#comment-26281 Oh, boy...does this one ever ring home for me! I am a certified personal trainer and have been in the fitness industry for many years. I have many clients who have had this problem. I have experienced aerobics/cardio weight gain myself over many years. I've just recently experienced this again as I started to train for longer and longer runs while stopping all resistance training and weight lifting. This resulted in a 10 pound weight gain, flabbier appearance, increased craving for starchy carbohydrates and a drastic decrease in upper body strength. Less than I month ago I cancelled all aerobic exercise and started strength training exclusively again. I have lost 3 pounds and my appetite has shifted more towards a craving of protein. My clothes are now fitting looser, my morning pulse rate is lower, I have almost tripled my strength and breathe easier walking up stairs or running across a busy street than I did when I was running long, slow distances. I will never run long and slow again. I have "seen the light". Oh, boy…does this one ever ring home for me! I am a certified personal trainer and have been in the fitness industry for many years. I have many clients who have had this problem. I have experienced aerobics/cardio weight gain myself over many years. I’ve just recently experienced this again as I started to train for longer and longer runs while stopping all resistance training and weight lifting. This resulted in a 10 pound weight gain, flabbier appearance, increased craving for starchy carbohydrates and a drastic decrease in upper body strength. Less than I month ago I cancelled all aerobic exercise and started strength training exclusively again. I have lost 3 pounds and my appetite has shifted more towards a craving of protein. My clothes are now fitting looser, my morning pulse rate is lower, I have almost tripled my strength and breathe easier walking up stairs or running across a busy street than I did when I was running long, slow distances. I will never run long and slow again. I have “seen the light”.

]]> By: Just Your Average Joggler - A Juggling and Running Blog » Running Alone Won't Help You Lose Weight http://justyouraveragejoggler.com/run-50-miles-and-gain-weight/comment-page-1/#comment-25064 Just Your Average Joggler - A Juggling and Running Blog » Running Alone Won't Help You Lose Weight Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:05:39 +0000 http://justyouraveragejoggler.com/run-50-miles-and-gain-weight/#comment-25064 [...] That’s a net weight gain of 6 pounds for the year. Clearly, exercise alone is not enough for weight loss. And as we’ve seen, you can even break a world record juggling and running 50 miles and gain weight! [...] [...] That’s a net weight gain of 6 pounds for the year. Clearly, exercise alone is not enough for weight loss. And as we’ve seen, you can even break a world record juggling and running 50 miles and gain weight! [...]

]]> By: Perry http://justyouraveragejoggler.com/run-50-miles-and-gain-weight/comment-page-1/#comment-24816 Perry Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:05:45 +0000 http://justyouraveragejoggler.com/run-50-miles-and-gain-weight/#comment-24816 Hey everyone, thanks for the great input. Carey, the explanation you quoted makes a lot of sense. This is why I love blogging. All your questions can get answered, and often the answers are true. Hey everyone, thanks for the great input. Carey, the explanation you quoted makes a lot of sense. This is why I love blogging. All your questions can get answered, and often the answers are true.

]]> By: Carey Smith http://justyouraveragejoggler.com/run-50-miles-and-gain-weight/comment-page-1/#comment-24815 Carey Smith Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:53:51 +0000 http://justyouraveragejoggler.com/run-50-miles-and-gain-weight/#comment-24815 Here's Karl King's (founder of Succeed Caps) response to the question of why people gain weight after an ultra: "The weight figures during/following an ultra, posted by Jay Hodde, are fairly common. The bloating is a combination of sodium depletion and the body's reaction to stress. Vasopressin is the hormone which causes most of the water retention. It clears from the bloodstream after a couple days and then the retained water filters back out. All of this is normal, and not a cause for concern. It may be shocking to run an ultra and find that your weight went up, but it is only temporary." So, there's your answer. You can read the entire thread here: http://www.ultrunr.com/wtrgain.html Happy Running (or Joggling), Carey Here’s Karl King’s (founder of Succeed Caps) response to the question of why people gain weight after an ultra:

“The weight figures during/following an ultra, posted by Jay Hodde, are fairly common. The bloating is a combination of sodium depletion and the body’s reaction to stress. Vasopressin is the hormone which causes most of the water retention. It clears from the bloodstream after a couple days and then the retained water filters back out. All of this is normal, and not a cause for concern. It may be shocking to run an ultra and find that your weight went up, but it is only temporary.”

So, there’s your answer. You can read the entire thread here: http://www.ultrunr.com/wtrgain.html

Happy Running (or Joggling),
Carey

]]> By: curly su http://justyouraveragejoggler.com/run-50-miles-and-gain-weight/comment-page-1/#comment-24814 curly su Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:53:59 +0000 http://justyouraveragejoggler.com/run-50-miles-and-gain-weight/#comment-24814 yeah, i definitely get heavier after long races. i think it's fluid retention. your body and kidneys just aren't operating correctly... yeah, i definitely get heavier after long races. i think it’s fluid retention. your body and kidneys just aren’t operating correctly…

]]> By: Blaine Moore (Run to Win) http://justyouraveragejoggler.com/run-50-miles-and-gain-weight/comment-page-1/#comment-24813 Blaine Moore (Run to Win) Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:12:56 +0000 http://justyouraveragejoggler.com/run-50-miles-and-gain-weight/#comment-24813 It doesn't seem strange to me at all. Running is worthless for losing weight if you are in the least bit fit. When you are obese and haven't run a step for 20 years, then yes, any sort of exercise is going to bring you some great gains. For somebody running an ultramarathon, though, they have trained to the point where running is going to lead more towards status quo or a little weight gain rather than weight loss. If you want to lose weight, don't run an ultramarathon. Run high intensity intervals instead. Or lift weights. Both activities are much better for ramping up your metabolism; most weight is lost and calories are burned _after_ you stop running, but if you are only running long slow distance then your metabolism isn't getting all that ramped up. Also, be sure to eat after every workout. 100-200 calories will allow your muscles to repair themselves so that you see more performance gains, and it will also keep your metabolism revved up so that you burn more calories in the long run. My 2 cents. It doesn’t seem strange to me at all. Running is worthless for losing weight if you are in the least bit fit. When you are obese and haven’t run a step for 20 years, then yes, any sort of exercise is going to bring you some great gains. For somebody running an ultramarathon, though, they have trained to the point where running is going to lead more towards status quo or a little weight gain rather than weight loss.

If you want to lose weight, don’t run an ultramarathon. Run high intensity intervals instead. Or lift weights. Both activities are much better for ramping up your metabolism; most weight is lost and calories are burned _after_ you stop running, but if you are only running long slow distance then your metabolism isn’t getting all that ramped up.

Also, be sure to eat after every workout. 100-200 calories will allow your muscles to repair themselves so that you see more performance gains, and it will also keep your metabolism revved up so that you burn more calories in the long run.

My 2 cents.

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